I don't think I've ever experienced a game where you didn't need to know some of the rules. I would love to know the games where you have experienced this!

I would also lump in 1e and 2e with your b/x assessment. Especially spells, for example.

I think some players knowing those rules can be a double edged sword. The other edge being munchkin-ism.

@presgas I mean any FKR game would be an example, by definition I suppose. We often play test Brendan's current iteration of his game, and no one knows the rules except him, mostly. Our friend Steve who plays with us never knows what we're playing or how it works before we play.

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